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Young Rottie with torn cruciate ligament

by Martha
(St. Louis, MO)

Zoe

Zoe

Hi,
I'm so happy to have this site to turn to! It seems as though my Rottie girl, Zoe, has partially torn one of her cruciate ligaments in a back leg. I'm waiting to hear back from the orthopedic vet at my dog's office for a final diagnosis. I'm heartbroken that this has happened, she's so young (she'll be 2 in August).

The vet said she'll probably need a "tibial plateau leveling osteotomy" (TPLO), and is sounds like recovery from this is rough and lengthy. I went to another office for a second opinion (I have an appointment to go with my dog to see their ortho vet, and it sounds like he has quite a bit of surgical experience); from their website it sounds like this vet usually prefers doing a "tibial tuberosity advancement" (TTA), and this procedure supposedly is a bit easier and has a quicker recovery time.

My questions are, do any of you readers have experience with this? How old was your dog when it happened, did you opt for surgery, and what was the recovery like? Did your dog eventually tear the 2nd side?

I have learned that it's common for dogs with one torn ligament to tear the other eventually, so I looked into dog insurance and only found one company (Pet's Best) that says they'll consider paying for the 2nd side if it happens, but they also don't pay for "hereditary and congenital" problems, and I'd hate to pay them for a few years only to have them say she had "congenitally weak" knees or something like that. Has anyone purchased insurance and had cruciate surgery covered?

I will appreciate any information anyone can provide ~ Thanks!






Hi Martha
I'm so sorry too to hear that this has happened to Zoe, but unfortunately it IS reasonably common in Rottweilers. Just stepping awkwardly can sometimes be enough to do it.

It sounds as though you're looking into things very thoroughly and are obviously keeping on top of your options which is excellent. I'm sure that you will get good advice from the orthopedic specialist and several opinions always helps.

I'm afraid I don't have personal experience of dealing with this, although I do know that surgical options are usually effective... albeit expensive! I also am not sure whether this is a hereditary condition as elbow and hip dysplasia is most commonly passed down genetically... cruciate ligament weakness.. I'm not at all sure, sorry to have to say that, but I don't want to venture a 'guess'.

You may want to check with the breeder that you originally bought Zoe from though. They usually know their dogs extremely well and if there is any weaknesses in that respect, a responsible breeder would give you that info. Also, if they have many dogs they may well have had to deal with this anyway, hereditary or not, and could offer advice or help.

Other than that, with the size of the Rottie community we have here there may well be some visitors who have had personal experience with this and who will be able to give you some more advice. It is now open to them.....

If you have time it would be helpful to all of us if you could keep us updated with her progress and your experiences. I wish you both the very best of luck, and hope Zoe is on the mend soon.

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Aug 31, 2014
Torn CCL Recovery NEW
by: Martha

Hi, I hope your pup does well, the recovery is a slow process and stressful for the human and the dog! My vet was very conservative for recovery, she stayed in a crate with potty breaks for 2 weeks postop. Use a sling under your dog's rear tummy when walking to support his or her weight, and increase activity very slowly. An easy way to give pills postop is to press them into a bite of "pate" like dog food, Zoe just slurps down anything like this. Be patient, I'm happy to report that Zoe is just like any other dog now. Both knees are fully healed, and she runs, walks, and jumps around with our other dog like nothing ever happened, she has no signs of pain or discomfort. Good luck!

Aug 30, 2014
Re: CCL TREATMENT NEW
by: Kimberly

So sorry to hear about zoe, although I am glad there are sites like these. My 9 month old rottie pup has torn his ccl. I was wondering what people have done in regards to the recovery. Any advice on how to help my pup in his recovery.

Feb 14, 2014
Torn Ligament NEW
by: Martha

Hi D.A., thanks for your comments! Recovery is slow, but I'm happy to say that my dog's 2nd surgery was over a year ago and she's completely fine, runs around like a baby and no sign of pain or discomfort. When she runs her gait looks a little different, but it's fine, she's doing very well. Good luck with your dog.

Feb 14, 2014
ACL repair with TPLO NEW
by: D.A. Berry

My 1 1/2 year old rotti just had TPLO surgery this wed. I will say I was a nervous wreak (though totally confident with the doctor I chose) because of all the horror stories I've read on the net. When I picked my baby up today, the instant I saw her I knew I made the right choice. The only advice I will give is this... do your homework and find a board certified diplomat of surgery to do the repair. Don't shop around for the cheaper price to fix the injury. My pups surgery site alone is pristine and she is already bearing some weight on the leg. Dr. Callum Hay and his staff will forever hold a place in my heart...

Aug 24, 2013
same boat NEW
by: Anonymous

martha,I have a 2 1/2 yr. old rotti that has torn both acls within 8 days apart.recovery time from what i understand is long,and will only do one at a time.please keep me informed of any info.you receive .as with anyone who ownes a rotti he's my world loyal, best friend ,companion.

Dec 04, 2012
Update on Zoe NEW
by: Anonymous

Here's an update in case anyone else refers to this thread for cruciate ligament info: Here we are over a year later, and Zoe is fully recovered from her first surgery...it was very challenging for both of us. Unfortunately, just about a year later, she tore her other CCL, and had the same surgery by the same vet (TTA/Tibial Tuberosity Advancement). She's doing very well, for some reason the 2nd side was easier for both of us. I was very reserved with her activity for the first year, because I was afraid she'd tear the second side. One day she scooted out the front door with my daughter's pit-mastiff mix. It was about 5 minutes before we got them back, but that's the day she tore her 2nd knee, she would not touch her back foot to the floor, and I knew what had happened. On the bright side, she's almost finished with her recovery, and I'm really excited that she can finally go back to the dog park in the spring, which she used to love! If anyone lives in the St. Louis area and needs an orthopedic vet, I can share the name of mine, he was wonderful.

Jul 02, 2011
TTA Surgery
by: Martha

Hi,
Just a quick note to say that we're now 10 days post-op from the TTA. When we went to visit the vet said we could bring Zoe home early, so she's been back for 3 days. I was very glad, because one of the vet assistants said she seemed sad when we left after the first visit, and that some dogs don't do well with separation. She's confined to the crate with the lovely e-collar on, or she has to be by us with a leash on and a support sling on her belly to assist in holding her rear weight. She does not seem to be in much pain, she's on lots of drugs! So far so good, I'll keep you posted - thanks so much for all of your support!

Jul 01, 2011
torn ACL
by: Mr Andy

My Rotti (2.5 yrs old) also tore her ACL. She was running around in the yard and just landed wrong on it. She had both surgeries about 6 months ago and you would never know anything was wrong. Recovery was slow since they actually cut and move the bone to assist the weakened ACL. Once the recovered she had another surgery to remove the metal plates that helped to support the bone. Long process but, my dog is family so the decision was easy...expensive but, easy!


Jun 17, 2011
Good luck
by: Natasha

Poor baby. Good luck Zoe. It sounds as though you are a healthy, strong young puppy with an amazing mum that cares deeply about you well being.

I'll be sending good energy and big hugs your way. Hopefully your recovery is fast and pain is minimal xxx

Jun 17, 2011
Zoe
by: Anonymous

Thanks for your info. We will probably go with the TTA surgery on Tuesday, 6/21. It is very expensive - $475 for the initial visit, including pain meds and a huge bottle of chondroitin/glucosamine which he said will benefit her for her whole life; then the surgery bill with everything will be about $2300.00. From what I've seen across the country, this seems to be on the lower side. I may have her stay with the vet for the first 2 weeks (we of course will visit), but he can perform range of motion PT exercises for her, and keep her subdued while healing begins. As much as I love her, it is a tough decision to spend that much on a dog, especially since it's likely to happen on her other knee as well. I have learned that this injury is not uncommon in rotties - either young and active (like Zoe) or older and overweight...so I'm sort of planning on doing it twice. She is young and a good weight, so we're hoping for the best. Prayers and good energy sent our way would be appreciated! I'll keep you posted on her progress. Again,thanks for the site, I'm glad to speak with you and other rottie owners.

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